![]() I operate in Europe (mostly Ireland, UK and France) as well as NA. Companies look at their risk profile, do the cheap minimum, and that's it. I don't even know why I'm arguing for this, the market already has you dead to rights. Just because it exists doesn't mean its a risk, or it'll realistically happen to a given client who could pay. With thousands of businesses in your average city - the risk profile is incredibly low. Stocks of goods-in-box are routinely nicked, and contractors vans or construction companies toolsheds are often just cleaned out. The bar is major business loss and major revenue loss. We're not talking about normal, every day people. By real money I mean: "Worth getting a physical pentest red team engagement for", since that's what we're talking about here. I should have been more clear - you can't sell anything worth real money. Why, on God's green earth, do you think I'm talking about grandma's jewlery or a few thousand in laptops? None of those are worth a physical pentest.Ĭommercial and residential burglaries have an incredibly low rate of conviction or even a suspect being identified.īecause the values of the items are are all sub 1000$. I guess you live somewhere in the US that is quite affluent or some shit. That doesn't track with reality here at all. People get caught eventually and go to jail. The people who robbed them spent way too long to make 100$. The people who got robbed couldn't afford a security system or any sort of protection, but didn't have much to lose. Poor rob the poor, and everyone stays poor. The vast majority of break-ins happen in poor neighborhoods over a few dollars. When they go right, it was usually for a specific item that they now keep instead of sell, and it was all under 1000$ value anyway. Significant break-ins don't happen, and when they do, the idiots get caught, stay poor, or both. Walmart can under-cut a fence on TV's when you factor in the cost of transporting the loot to a different city. You robbed a house and don't have a fence.Īnd fences don't exist anymore because the margins are too tight. Security system bypassed.īut now what? You've gotta sell the shit to get the coin. Watch someone's insta, see their vacation photos, break a window and wait down the road or go get some food until the cops come, wait for them to leave and rob the place. ![]() Physical corporate espionage and burglary is a dying art, it's all social engineering now. It's way more likely they rob retail, and even then they usually just take the loss and write it off. Plus, physical burglaries are just not really a thing for offices. Those homes have bad locks, bad security systems, its all shit - but anyone smart enough to bypass them is smart enough to make easier money that isn't illegal. There are plenty of homes with more valuables and less security than offices. Lock companies make bad locks, door companies make bad doors, everything is broken and its all shit.īut it doesn't matter because break-ins looking for cyber security information, statistically speaking, never happen. On a slightly different topic, is a yardstick a handy tool to have? I should look this up but any good plans or tutz (lulz) on building a pineapple with a raspberry pi that anyone would vouch for?Īlmost nobody cares about physical security because we all know it's already shit and nobody actually cared because loss is a tax writeoff. ![]() I got into or stumbled into this notion that I might one day make a hacker as skillful as ZeroCool. I would just like to do something a little more challenging or just a completely different aspect of system security away from the keyboard mainly.ĭid anyone else get into red team operations for the same reasons? I was also an electrician in the Air Force and so Hardware hacking part would be interesting to me. I realize this is a very ambiguous question and subject to a number of factors but I would be a complete newbie in the space of offensive security on a red team. ![]() Is that even a thing? I've been programming for 25 plus years and I'm tired of sitting behind the desk I want to go play Jason Bourne and that involves breaking into things. Essentially I'm asking can I break in and physically access the network has a typical part of a evaluation for a client.
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